- Username
- stf
- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 5y ago
Wow I hadn’t even thought about it from this perspective, but you’re so right. Makes me upset too. A lot of things could have been better for me if I had started to get treatment 12 years ago.
You are right, it's not the same thing. After posting this, I started to think about how after I was diagnosed, a doctor gave me a prescription for Xanax even though I wasnt getting panic attacks back then. I was 16! Later in life, I was prescribed benzos again, and I was on them for years, which is common in America, but always dangeeous. I had to vo through horrible withdrawal after they stopped working and I keot having to up my dose. There is irresponsible and uneducated drug pushing, and the science in psychiatry is definitely less solid than it is for vaccines. Im sorry you had these experiences. Therapy is really the best treatment for OCD. It's pretty socially acceptable to believe therapy does nothing, and lots of people make fun of therapy and think it's just privileged people whining about their problems. I just think about what my OCD was like before I got treatment, and I feel horrible for people who are denied ANY treatment, because their parents dont believe In it. Treatment isn't a luxury, OCD takes away your life. But in reality, as it always is, it's complicated.
I know. My parents are among that crowd and they still try to talk me out of taking medications, they won't listen to me when I tell them that the pills are working.
I hadn't thought of that tbh, it's a really good point. I had therapy as an adult without even telling my dad since I knew he'd be against it. One time I said I'd had a panic attack recently and he said 'How did I raise such weak children?'
I don‘t think this is the same thing. While vaccinations are really working, psych meds have a high placebo effect, a lot of side effect and there are a lot of non responders. Psychiatrie systematically avoids talking about the physical dependency and the hardships of withdrawl, which exist for certain. I know many people getting worse on psych meds, including me, and only non mainstream scientists who talk about it, while the mainstream psychiatric studies are broadly sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. This is not denying the problems that are labeled „mental illness“ as some parents seem to do. But there are a lot of people out there where psychiatric treatment did harm and I hate this fact is mostly denied. While I agree completely it‘s horrible that some people can‘t afford any treatment at all.
stf really sorry to hear your med story. I know the prescription of psych drugs is even more in the US (I can speak for Germany), but also here it‘s irresponsible and makes me angry. But I get your point about parents denying the phenomena labeled „mental ilness“, maybe saying things like „get yourself together“, right? That is also not helpful and ignorant, I agree. On the other hand there are parents blaming the problem on the child and too soon and to trusting in „the experts“ give their children to doctors which is also questionable. Yes, no treatment is horrible, and being poor is one of the main predictors and maintaining causes of mental problems. It‘s the world we live in. Good you had treatment that helped you!
Having POCD is the most damaging thing to ever happen to me. Like even if I get better or even if I get cured, the compulsions will always haunt me. I've always wanted to be a famous person. And my naive ass still has that dream, but if I get famous, I really wanna talk seriously and raise awareness about how extreme OCD can get. The problem is, how do you explain all this shit to people who don't have OCD and also convince them that youre not a genuine freak. How do you explain that "oh some people with POCD willingly think of sexual scenarios to check for arousal" or "Some people with POCD masturbate to their thoughts to see if they can achieve an orgasm and some of them do by pure stress response" and also how am I going to explain that I've seen rare cases of people with POCD who try to find CP in order to see if it arouses them? How am I going to explain this to people without them being like "so where is the fucking line drawn? Just because none of yall have ever hurt a child means that we should trust you?" It's bad enough as is that just because that one dude with OCD comitted a heinous crime and already people are pulling out the "its his mentol ewness that made him do that" shlock but also the fact that I've read that in extreme cases some folks with HOCD test themselves out with same-sex partners. Like to a normal person saying all this shit basically looks like I'm trying to paint a paraphilic disorder as an anxiety disorder problem, but at the same time it is what it fucking is and I still haven't seen anyone with POCD hurt any child. Just because there are some bizarre cases of desperate and extremely anxious possibly teenagers doing dumb shit doesn't mean that POCD isn't or has never been a treatable anxiety problem. I talked about this with a friend and she was like "why would you have to talk about any of that when you can just keep quiet?" Because it makes me feel like a creep in disguise. Yes, compulsions have made me do gross things but at the end of the day it was all self-harm basically. It never had anything to do with doing harm to anyone but myself. Yes people with OCD have the choice to resist compulsions, but if you don't even know whether or not you have OCD and you're not working with a professional, most likely scenario is you're gonna give into a lot of compulsions. People don't choose their compulsions as OCD is highly-individualized and different for everyone. And there's no such thing as a compulsion where you hurt a child to test yourself. That is absolute bullshit. I'm upset, because there was a study by this dickhead that was like "people with HOCD regularly or excessively look at gay porn. If CP was accessible, no doubt that people with POCD would be seeking it out too." ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT. Whoever wrote that can fucking choke. I'd rather die than see shit like that. FUCK OFF. These fucking mental health researchers are crazy sometimes like someone tried to test how high pedophiles and other paraphiliacs scored on the Y-BOCS test.....What the fuck was the reason for that? Can you do something more productive? I am upset with how horrible this disorder is and how much nobodys ever gonna get it. I want them to get it, because OCD is treatable and harmless, but people are too busy trying to milk their own perceived moral highground to try and take this seriously. It's bad enough that most of us can't be convinced that our OCD is actually real and is OCD and that we aren't being lied to by our therapists or whatever, but if the more severe cases of OCD get exposed to the general public we're gonna have them reinforcing that to us too. I feel completely hopeless and I honestly wish that the people who would raise their eyebrows at someone who has severe OCD, do something to make fictional CP illegal, instead of being willfully ignorant at already tormented people with a harmless mental disorder. Like I seriously can't even look at erotic fanart of a buff rugged adult fictional character without having the most disturbing shit pop up in the "recommended images" section AND THIS IS GOOGLE IMAGES like this isnt some nasty smut website I got on. If people really cared about the safety of children they would be doing everything BUT making people with POCD feel like menaces to society.
Is anyone else just blown away at the price of therapy? It’s like... £/$250-300 per hour!? And upwards from that! No wonder people don’t reach out for help, because as a student whose from a less financially stable family, I just can’t afford that. I’m not attacking the therapists/psychologists, but there’s something sinister about the pricing. I feel like all I ever hear in the media is “reach out for help”, yet when you reach, 100’s are being snatched out of the same hand. It’s just sad. This isn’t directly related to money, but I was reading an article about a girl who had been referred to the hospital from her school counsellor because she was conveying that she was in a very low place, and I’m assuming explaining a suicidal ideation. She went to the hospital and waited 8 HOURS. 8. After the 8 hours, she had a 15 minute conversation with a psychiatrist who diagnosed her with depression & anxiety and sent her on her way. She was given no further advice aside from her diagnosis, and was told by the psychiatrist that her and her father should look for therapies in their area. 1 week later, this poor girl took her own life. A week. I don’t think any of the people who were directly involved in the lead up to the girls suicide should be berated and ostracised, but the system that they work within should. If that isn’t a reflection of the state of mental health support, I don’t know what is. These sorts of occurrences need to stop, and there should be ways in which individuals can get ample support when they don’t have the finances to go privately. Being less economically advantaged means that individuals who are struggling have to receive below the bar support. It just saddens me. For those of you out there who don’t have the means to receive the support you need, know that you are seen and heard. You’re not alone.
Me and my partner are sorta trying for a child but I'm really worried I'll end up giving them this disorder. Am I being irrational? Are there any parents who could chime in and give me advice?
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