- User type
- OCD Conqueror
- Date posted
- 6y
Wow I hadn’t even thought about it from this perspective, but you’re so right. Makes me upset too. A lot of things could have been better for me if I had started to get treatment 12 years ago.
You are right, it's not the same thing. After posting this, I started to think about how after I was diagnosed, a doctor gave me a prescription for Xanax even though I wasnt getting panic attacks back then. I was 16! Later in life, I was prescribed benzos again, and I was on them for years, which is common in America, but always dangeeous. I had to vo through horrible withdrawal after they stopped working and I keot having to up my dose. There is irresponsible and uneducated drug pushing, and the science in psychiatry is definitely less solid than it is for vaccines. Im sorry you had these experiences. Therapy is really the best treatment for OCD. It's pretty socially acceptable to believe therapy does nothing, and lots of people make fun of therapy and think it's just privileged people whining about their problems. I just think about what my OCD was like before I got treatment, and I feel horrible for people who are denied ANY treatment, because their parents dont believe In it. Treatment isn't a luxury, OCD takes away your life. But in reality, as it always is, it's complicated.
I know. My parents are among that crowd and they still try to talk me out of taking medications, they won't listen to me when I tell them that the pills are working.
I hadn't thought of that tbh, it's a really good point. I had therapy as an adult without even telling my dad since I knew he'd be against it. One time I said I'd had a panic attack recently and he said 'How did I raise such weak children?'
I don‘t think this is the same thing. While vaccinations are really working, psych meds have a high placebo effect, a lot of side effect and there are a lot of non responders. Psychiatrie systematically avoids talking about the physical dependency and the hardships of withdrawl, which exist for certain. I know many people getting worse on psych meds, including me, and only non mainstream scientists who talk about it, while the mainstream psychiatric studies are broadly sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. This is not denying the problems that are labeled „mental illness“ as some parents seem to do. But there are a lot of people out there where psychiatric treatment did harm and I hate this fact is mostly denied. While I agree completely it‘s horrible that some people can‘t afford any treatment at all.
stf really sorry to hear your med story. I know the prescription of psych drugs is even more in the US (I can speak for Germany), but also here it‘s irresponsible and makes me angry. But I get your point about parents denying the phenomena labeled „mental ilness“, maybe saying things like „get yourself together“, right? That is also not helpful and ignorant, I agree. On the other hand there are parents blaming the problem on the child and too soon and to trusting in „the experts“ give their children to doctors which is also questionable. Yes, no treatment is horrible, and being poor is one of the main predictors and maintaining causes of mental problems. It‘s the world we live in. Good you had treatment that helped you!
I’ve noticed that sometimes when people say things about killing MAPs or how they don’t deserve treatment I get a little. Well defensive isn’t the right word. I just get this feeling that if someone is getting treatment for their disorder and doesn’t want to hurt anyone they shouldn’t be killed or anything. I think it might be that part of my brain that is always questioning if I’m one and it’s scary to think about… I don’t know. I don’t think it’s something that should be like. Celebrated obviously. But there are some people who get treatment for it and don’t hurt anyone… maybe I just don’t like the idea of killing entire groups when there are other ways to deal with it too. I don’t know. I feel like there’s fighting going on in my brain because on one hand I think it’s disgusting and that anyone who acts on it SHOULD be punished and people who don’t think there’s something wrong with it SHOULD be ashamed, but on the other I guess I kind of feel for people who don’t want to hurt anyone and want to get help. It’s not the same as intrusive thoughts obviously bc there isn’t any fear accompanied with it for them, but they still get that it’s wrong… I dunno, maybe my heart’s just too soft for it’s own good. I feel a little better writing it all out though. When I started writing this I was part convinced this was some kind of evidence that I’m like them but I think it’s just a case of too much sympathy maybe. Whatever it is it doesn’t mean I’m anything like them. this is just a big old vent it seems. My fault for watching a YouTube video that I knew would trigger me :/ hopefully my thoughts came across somehow. Dog-earring this for next therapy appointment I guess
I just feel like therapy isn’t working… like I get to talk about myself and understand myself… but I’m already incredibly self aware. My therapist thought I was like 5 years older than I am… and she gives me such basic strategies that do absolutely nothing for me. And a psychiatrist prescribed me with Zoloft… but I don’t know if T want to take medication. I’m scared of side effects… and I’m scared of getting better… I’m scared of letting my guard down. I know it will make me less cautious which makes me less likely to push myself to perfection like I currently do, which I can’t have happen. Every time I talk to my mom about it, she’s always like “Let’s talk about this some other time, I’m busy with other things”, and then never remembers. But in the rare moments we do talk about it, she treats it like I’m signing up to be a drug addict. I also feel very guilty for spending so much of my parents’ money- therapy… medication… etc… and also the idea of my being unlovable is so deeply engraved in my brain… I genuinely, truly believe it. No therapy or medication can fix it. I can’t change my mind. My therapist tells me my misophonia is not a “deal-breaker” and that someone would be lucky to have me as a partner… but then why hasn’t anyone ever liked me? My own FAMILY can’t stand me. How do I believe something I know isn’t true? That’s even harder to accept than me being unlovable. I can’t see someone loving me. And it is so incredibly exhausting to seek love,e I know I cannot have. My sister says, “It will get better with age…” It has only ever gotten worse. To the point I don’t want to get better. It has reached the severity where I feel more safe and successful with anxiety. My past 3 birthdays have been me wishing for therapy. And now I have therpay- and medication, the potential key… and I refuse? Am I too deep in? I cant get out, it’s too late. How did absolutely no one notice how much I had and have been hurting? Why did no one listen to my cries or worries? I feel really depressed and hopeless right now. It takes so much effort to get up every day… I’m so tired.
Lately I’ve seen way too many comments under posts about OCD, especially the harm, POCD, and relationship themes that are incredibly misinformed and honestly harmful. People saying things like “these thoughts are unnatural,”or “you need to go get real help” and encouraging confession ***compulsions*** when they clearly have no understanding of how OCD actually works. Let me be clear: OCD involves distressing and unwanted thoughts, images, or urges. That doesn’t make someone dangerous. It makes them someone with a mental illness who is terrified of their own brain. Saying these people are “unnatural” or implying they’re broken only reinforces shame, and shame is the opposite of what helps anyone heal. If you’re commenting under OCD-related posts on an OCD ***app*** without understanding what intrusive thoughts are, or what compulsions can look like, or **how OCD can attach itself to the things we fear most** then please, stop. You are not helping. You’re reinforcing stigma and pushing people further into silence. OCD is already isolating. We don’t need more people moralizing or projecting trauma theory onto something they haven’t experienced or don’t understand. If you really care, go learn. Read about intrusive thoughts. Learn about ERP therapy. Or maybe just listen. Because some of us are barely hanging on, and comments like those don’t just miss the point, they can do real damage. I’m sorry if I come off too angry, it just really upsets me to see people speak on something they clearly don’t understand. End of rant. Thank you for reading 🤍
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