- Username
- MJocd
- Date posted
- 5y ago
I am in the same boat. I have the same thoughts at times too. Honestly, I currently feel extremely guilty about something as well. I was on a site for OCD (not going to say which) and there was someone who I was helping out here and there. But, one day they were having trouble with a particular thought and asking for reassurance on a particular trigger. I knew not to try to give reassurance, but she was going through a VERY difficult time with her life, so I thought I'd share some advice. But, I think that advice was misunderstood and she said it actually made it worse... that was the last time I heard from her or seen her post on the site... she was extremely suicidal... so my brain keeps telling me she commited suicide and that it was all my fault... I get that if it is true, that it wasn't my fault entirely. I just can't shake the thought or feeling that though others built up the fuel, I was the spark that caused the final burst of flame... I keep hoping that I'll here from her or see her post. But don't feel bad for the way you feel. We are mentally ill. There is not much we can do about it, other than try to get better ourselves through therapy, meds, ect. This probably didn't help much but I just wanted you to know you aren't alone in the way you feel.
Also, guilt and uncertainty are the hallmarks of OCD so it's not at all odd that we feel/think the way we do.
Thankyou for commenting on this post, sorry you have been struggling. I think I am going try and stop helping because providing support and reassurance to others makes me worse since I am unwell with OCD myself. I actually have unfriended people and have deleted ocd conversations because I feel like I have to focus on myself, I cant carry the burdens of other peoples intrusive thoughts anymore because I have to constantly check my own OCD thoughts and I struggle too :( I hope the person you're talking about is okay, but if it is the case that they took that step, it isnt your fault. I've been at the point of rumination where suicide has felt like the only option and other peoples reassurance hasn't been enough, but its my own brain causing that, not another persons response. I'm sorry you worry about this, ocd and the problem with uncertainty is no joke :(
It's okay. I am extremely suicidal myself, but I keep pressing on because I know that one day, death will come, and the ironic thing is when that day comes I probably won't want to die. I have just started meds and therapy, and for once in my entire life, I actually have hope. I wish you the best of luck. I hope that one day, we all will be free of this.
Quick question though, are you seeking any professional help(therapy, meds, ect.)? If not, I have some great resources I can share with you to help you get on that track.
I hope it gets better, sorry your struggling. No I am not taking meds or therapy at the moment, I have a drs appointment scheduled soon to talk more about this, last time I was there he assumed I had GAD and gave me these self help sheets etc. But I didnt tell him properly that I thinks its OCD. I have really low lows, so one week of no functioning, but then I get random highs where the intrusive thoughts dont affect me and I feel distanced from them. I dont understand it, and I dont know if I should take meds and if those will balance everything out. This past week I was really struggling but now I am sort of okay, but i never really know how long the okay feeling will last.
Let me tell you my story . I had match on tinder with one guy . He seemed nice and we were chatting a lot.but i didnt know him in real life. Once we opened up to each oother about our family problems, personal problems etc i tried to be suportive to him cuz he said he has finantial problems and intrusive thoughts and adhd and i was listening to him and giving advices, calming him down. But after some time He started being very intense so i told him that hes cool but im not intdrested in having a relationship cause i have ocd and ptsd and it doesnt seem to work out since he has mental disorders too and its not a good mix togetger ( i mean cause when i was comfortimg him it was making me feel terrible , like i felt what he felt and he was so on about his problems and on and on , nothing positive came from him ) so at first he was like okat lets be friends but agfter some time he accused me on having sex on a party with someone .. and started calling me names . So yeah . I think people with ocd and anxiety should take care of themself first . I mean. Is nice to help people in this NOCD app but you need to know your limit .
And i dont mean this man from tinder is an asshole . Ge apologized later . Nobodys perfect
MJocd, I too sympathetize with your situation. Now I will say this, first I apologise for this long reply, but I think that you might be dealing with bi-polar with OCD comorbidity(though I am not a doctor so please don't take this as a certain diagnosis). It is actually a common thing, and if it is true then it's lucky you haven't tried meds just quite yet, because the common drugs prescribed for OCD, SSRI's/SNRI's actually cause manic episodes in bi-polar populations. Though, do not fret, because there is much research on how to approach this specific dilemma. Here are a few articles I shared with someone who was diagnosed with bi-polar and OCD comorbidity. They suggest that the best approach is to utilize anti-psychotics and mood stabilizers. Here are the articles. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032719304227?via%3Dihub http://www.indianjpsychiatry.org/article.asp?issn=0019-5545;year=2016;volume=58;issue=3;spage=259;epage=269;aulast=Kazhungil https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032714003140 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4621290/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6343407/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4621291/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30743017/?i=4&from=/28066002/related https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11405042_Bipolar_obsessive-compulsive_disorder_confirmation_of_results_of_the_ABC-OCD_survey_in_2_populations_of_patient_members_versus_non-members_of_an_association http://www.indianjpsychiatry.org/article.asp?issn=0019-5545;year=2019;volume=61;issue=7;spage=51;epage=57;aulast=Thamby It appears that the best medicication approach is Abilify and lithium carbonate.
Also, I know we aren't suppose to make suggestions in regards to therapy changes, but I personally suggest not going back to that doctor... only because if he just left you with a GAD diagnosis and a few worksheets, then he is not the best for this situation. I'll leave you with a recommendation for a psychiatrist. It's an online app I use for my own psychiatrist. It's called LiveHealthOnline, and you can see a psychiatrist within a few days, even same day in some cases. https://livehealthonline.com/ If you do choose this route, make sure to choose the Psychiatry option (as they have quite a few options). A psychiatrist is really the only person who can properly diagnose you and give you proper meds. If it is the case that you have bi-polar with OCD comorbidity, then I'd recommend sharing some of the knowledge from within the articles I shared so that you can find a proper medication plan. Also, just real quick, here are some links for some good therapists if you decide to go that route. https://iocdf.org/ocd-finding-help/find-help/ the therapists here are specialized in OCD and are part of a larger OCD network. But, perhaps your best bet will be to search here(if you are diagnosed with bi-polar OCD) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists because you can filter for therapists who treat both bi-polar and OCD. But, these are just my suggestions.
Infinite1010 my doctor alsso left me with a gad diagnosis and after 4 months of going to psychologist we realised i really have ocd and ptsd . Sometimes diagnosis takes time .
Yeah, I get that, it's true, but there are also some really crappy doctors out there... Usually, as a rule of thumb that I follow, is if after sometime you don't see good results with your current psychiatrist/ therapist, then perhaps it best to change, because there are some really good ones and bad ones out there. (I've dealt with both).
I believe I have moral OCD and I reassurance seek about things because my brain genuinely cannot recognise if I should be upset/worried/ashamed about something or not. My brain just gets locked on one thought and cant get any real perspective. I read a post today on a OCD support group on fb where someone said "bad people often want reassurance to make them feel better about who they are/what they have done and get this reassurance online from people who dont know the full story about them". And it really triggered me because it made me think, am I not a good person? Is this really OCD? what if it's not and I am doing exactly what that person said? And that was so scary to me. I dont think I'm a bad person, I'll admit to making mistakes in the past like every other human on the planet but my intentions were never bad ones. And then I feel scared for even worrying about what that person said bc why would I worry after reading that? I feel like my brain just cant distinguish from reality and the reality that its created and its terrifying.
When someone comes to talk to me about ocd & want some comfort or words of understanding I like to be there for them... But I start feeling hevaily uncomfortable like I start carrying their worries and stresses, I start thinking and ruminating about their intrusive thoughts. When I'm online I can control it to an extent as I can choose when to stop reading a post and when to stop talking to someone, but in person or when I'm having a convo with someone I know I feel like I can't just leave, especially when they're having a hard time and coming to me for advice and comfort.
I’ve always been a huge feminist, anti-racist, anti-sexual assaulters, etc. Basically against everybody anti-human rights. But because my OCD has been trying to convince me that I’m a sexual assaulter, a pedophile, racist, etc. (basically everything that goes against my morals), it also tries to tell me that I should sympathize with people I used to be against. Sometimes I’ll read about, say, teens committing sexual assault, and in the past I would have firmly said “they need to be punished”, whereas now I think “well, what if they didn’t know better? I made a mistake when I was a teen; what if they thought it was okay?” I never say these out loud because I dont want to make real victims feel bad, obviously. And if I hear someone has been racist, I’ll think, “What if they’re like me?” I still believe we need to eradicate sexual assault, racism, homophobia, etc, but I can’t help but think I’m a part of the problem, so sometimes I find myself sympathizing with “bad people”. It’s really messing my mind up. I don’t know what to think. Does anyone feel the same way or have any tips?
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