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- ocdlizard
- Date posted
- 3y ago
This is how it started with me too. Constantly trying to understand the behaviour that it felt as if I was almost overtaken by that type of personality. What ever the reason may be, they have no self control on their own behaviour I think. Reading this triggered me a bit not gonna lie, but I believe that the difference witg pocd is that we struggle daily, constantly stress about it and have sleepless nights over it. We get triggered and have panick attacks. We cry about the thoughts and stay frozen by the thoughts. We try to neutralize the thoughts or do other compulsions to help us relax a bit. It's debilitating. It ruins our lives. We wish weren't so easy to convince. Our first instinct is fear. Because we know that it's just not really us. That is OCD. I don't think pedofiles deal with a fraction of what we have to deal with.
Key thing I think also is they know they are pedophiles way before they know it's wrong. I've had OCD since like 12 and didn't understand it until like 25-26. The attraction doesn't really bother them. They just feel it and it's strong, persistent, and the PRIMARY or ONLY attraction. You can find a teenager attractive, but they aren't your "favorite" compared to a more mature women. You also don't like older women LESS than kids either.
Apparently I’ve read that some ps are attractive to older people too but I don’t buy it
On top of that I worry about the false attractions being true. I’ve read stories about people who are pedos saying they genuinely hate being like that and wish they weren’t like that and it makes me realize that pedos aren’t inherently bad people they just have those attractions, but it makes it hard for me to say “well I’m a good person there’s no way I could be a pedo”. Because it seems like many pedos are non offending and have empathy and understand that it is a bad thing to offend yet they are the way they are, and that freaks me out so much.
@Kitkat1219 Right!!! My main compulsion is research too! I keep trying to find a difference between me and them and it’s like “omg they hate the idea of being one too, but they actually ARE”. And then it’s like how did they become that way??? I have to know how they became that way to justify that theres no way I am that way. Like what the formula that made them this way so I know not to raise my own kids a certain way either to ensure they don’t become that way.
please read this, especially the part under differential diagnosis
It explaina the scientfically researched differences between pocd and pedophilia
Thank you for the article, I do know the difference between the diagnoses but for me it’s also like how did they become like that in the first place?
@ocdlizard Well from what I read on this article it is I think a sexual orientation they have towards children, it's in their genetic makeup
@Darthflower That’s what scares me is what if I have that gene?
@ocdlizard Please read the article carefully, I think you will learn from that
some pedo may feel ashamed or even know what they do is wrong based on upbringing or religiois beliefs they were brought up with, but they don't actually feel distressing feelings at all when they have these thoughts
That’s what makes me wonder, what made them feel these attractions even if they had a normal upbringing?
Yes, so in a way they prefer it, than to be in normal adult relationships. And I think that's the biggest distinction
They've made a concious choice to engage in that, and don't like adult relationships really
@Ilovefinnickodair I relate to your story, this is exactly the same for me too. I think its honestly trauma. Please reas the article I shared in the comments. It explains this very well. And gives a clear distiction.
@Ilovefinnickodair Another thing to remember and I did learn through study was that you do maintain some minimal attraction to the teenage age group into your adult years. Over time this becomes less and less but you will still "notice" younger people. It's just biological. If that was what we wanted, we would have been acted on it by now.
@Ilovefinnickodair the article should be free, you can even try downloading
@Ilovefinnickodair Same I’ve always been attracted to men my age and usually older to be honest
@Ilovefinnickodair My pocd started when I was 19 and before I was 19 I didn’t even know that pedophilia existed as a “sexual preference”. So it really freaked me out. I also always wanted to be a pediatric nurse and I still am aiming for that as I’m in nursing school but pocd definitely makes me feel very much like I should avoid my profession but I know that’s giving into ocd. It’s really an awful ocd to have.
@Darthflower I can’t access it either unfortunately, I’d love to read it
@bigsmithe05 That’s true… I think what’s a distinction with ps are that they are attracted to prepubescent and that’s when the really serious creepy stuff happens. Yes, teenage years and older it’s minimal and you notice them but less and less over the years cause they are post pubescent but what freaks me out to is if I’m possibly noticing prepubescent and that scares the lights out of me.
@Ilovefinnickodair My brain also tricks me and says “do you like this kid, he has pretty eyes” or “if he grows up he’ll be such a handsome man!” And I’m like what the heck! Am I attracted to that kid! No way!! What if I subconsciously do… and then it tumbles
@ocdlizard It's probably relatively normal for people to "predict" that. I seem to hear that all the time. "Oh he/she will be a heartbreaker when they are older". They don't have OCD so it's whatever when they say it. I've also heard that part of ERP in POCD is to go all in on the accusation. Along the lines of "Yeah, I am attracted to that kid. Hell yeah.". Once you agree with it, it's like "oh... Ok then". Sounds like it's hard in practice though lol.
@bigsmithe05 that makes me laugh “ya I’m attracted to that kid, he’ll yah” LOL what on gods green earth are we dealing with
@bigsmithe05 I hate to agree with it though I know it’s ERP but I still don’t want to let myself in the position to be a p it’s so like normalizing it?
@Ilovefinnickodair Preach!!!
@Ilovefinnickodair I try to remember that before I was OCD about it, I wasn't. I just.....lived. My themes are sometimes based around having an illness. Those were easy lol. I didn't die so after a certain time I was good. Also I think about the times when I'm in situations where I've gotten sexual intrusive thoughts in the past and didn't have them on a particular day maybe because I was distracted by the good time I was having or whatever. I find myself consciously looking back and saying "wow you forgot to be weird... Ain't that something?". Creeps and weirdos are that way by design. We have thoughts precisely because we are afraid to have them. Quick! Don't think of a pink elephant for the next minute! Same concept.
@Ilovefinnickodair I think it’s because we truly care about kids and want to nurture kids that idea of pedophilia bother us so much. I’ve noticed my boyfriend could give two less shits about pedophilia (he isn’t one of course) because he isn’t really that crazy nurturing type and honestly doesn’t like kids all that much
@ocdlizard You take away the power of the thought over you when you don't give it the time of day. I guess the goal is to get to the point where when you get accused of being attracted or whatever, you just shrug and say "it's possible" and move on like nothing is wrong and assume you are good instead of trying to prove it to your OCD.... Like I do all the time haha
@ocdlizard Right OCD sufferers are usually more conscientious and thus these accusations are devastating.
@bigsmithe05 I agree with you.
@bigsmithe05 Now my mind goes to I know creeps and weirdos are like that in design but how the heck do they become creeps and weirdos (pedos) like how did they even develop that way…
@ocdlizard Yea that messed me up to. I had a thought one night saying "I wonder what that's like?" as in CP and all that. I was devastated by this. Was this genuine interest!?!! Logical me should of known better. It was just a question. The answer is obvious. I do have some amazement at the fact that people break the law and everything to consume it though. How is that worth it to see kids who are being abused or taken advantage of in some way? Oh that's right they are attracted to kids. Duh.
It’s this sort of situation where if pedos hate being pedos themselves how do I know I’m not one? And that means I could have easily been born one?
I don’t think they deal with a fraction but at the same time I always wonder why they are the way they are and my mind won’t stop - they truly are this way and it scares me to know that most of they aren’t bad horrible monsters but people like you and me in society that had somewhat of a similar childhood. I want to have a justification that I would have never been that way and that there is seriously something that went wrong with them to make me feel better but I know I’ll never get that validation.
Mostly genetics
I personally don't feel this way actually, its not really an attraction at all. The respons is a reaction to wrong links that your brain made trough trauma's. Which is where my ocd came from.
Can POCD make you feel like you don’t know why sexually abusing children is wrong, just that you’re afraid of becoming a child abuser for whatever reason? I’m constantly struggling to figure out why pedophilia doesn’t make me disgusted or angry enough. I feel like I’m actually a pedophile who doesn’t know it yet or is in denial. I know I shouldn’t ruminate but I feel like there’s some truth to the thing I’m constantly obsessing over.
read a couple articles that you can be born a pedo. that you have no choice and that you were born attracted to prepubescent children. that some people believe they have it. it’s terrifying. i’m scared i have it. these people who “do” don’t want it and not all of them act on it. but i don’t want to be that. i don’t want to be attracted to that i don’t even want it in my brain. i tried to kill myself yesterday because of this. i talked to my therapist but idk what to do idk if this is pocd anymore. someone please respond it can be anything tbh
Im sorry for a long post but I'm very scared Prior to few weeks ago I didn't have any sexual thoughts regarding children EVER, and if I did then I really can't remember. But ever since I started worrying about the possibility that I might be attracted to them, I just felt severely awful. And it's getting worse and worse overtime. What started as just me worrying that I might be attracted to kids has now turned into a deep belief that there is a very dark and real part of me that is, in fact, a pedophile. I even started having intrusive but pleasurable fantasies about children and it's driving me absolutely sick. I really wish that it's just a very extreme form of POCD and not actually me turning into a monster, but with each passing day my hope is fading away, replaced with pure disgust in myself and unwillingness to live like this. Has anyone here ever went through something similar?
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