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- Kamisamahajimemashita1?
- Date posted
- 2y ago
I feel the same way. Having a very hard time with ERP. How can one sit with their obsession without distraction, compulsion or rumination?
I don't know. I think ERP can be helpful, I am not encouraging anyone to quit their treatment. It's a simply this unrealistic level of mental and emotional discipline that accompany it that I find doubtful...
I have felt this way at times too, sometimes wondering if my whole life is a compulsion.
Mine too...I'm sorry that you're going through this
Yikes. I don't see a nocd therapist, but I have been in therapy for a long time (though not currently). I would say focus on one thing at a time and try not to do everything at once.
Yes I think that's the right thing to do. It's the worst part about OCD, the questioning about everything, so focusing on one thing at a time feel like a good idea
I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't had that specific experience with my NOCD therapist. We discuss *specific* things to work on but I've never felt like she's told me that everything is potentially harmful. Is that literally what your therapist said or is this an interpretation your OCD is latching onto to discourage you from continuing treatment? It almost sounds like (at least based off of this post) that you're obsessing over the ERP itself.
Ah no I am not talking about ERP. I don't see a NOCD therapist and I never did ERP (I have autism and possibly ADHD, and I am french so it would be complicated to use NOCD because my insurance doesnt work here and I need specific treatment). I was more refering to the articles that they send to my email, I'm at the point where ai am dreading the moment that they arrive because I think "Ok, what did I do wrong now ? What else should I watch out to ?" (And of course I don't dare to turn of the notifications because if I do then it'll be avoidance and I'd be a coward )
@Kamisamahajimemashita1? Ahhh sorry I misunderstood! While I agree practicing avoidance would be bad, I do think you don't have to keep getting those emails if they are triggering. Like you don't want to flood yourself and do too much at once. Its ok to do things more slowly and make progress that way.
@redmuse22 Yes that's what my mom told me as well...I suppose it is that I get overwhelmed very easily and I can't really recognize when something is too much for me or not, and I want so much to do the right things that sometimes it gets counterproductive... I am happy that it is working well with your therapist by the way, it didn't want to disprove ERP as a treatment, I'm sorry
Maybe it would be helpful to just get exactly what you are supposed to do for ERP and then let the rest just be. Dont question it. So for example, my ERP phrase im supposed to say after an intrusive thought to not do rituals. Im supposed to repeat this over and over again until the anxiety is gone. Maybe JUST focus on your ERP phrase and repeating this. Dont question what else youre doing. Does that help?
It helps a little, that is pretty good advice, maybe it would mean OCD won't have such a huge impact on my life where I think about it everytime I'm doing something... Luckily I'm pretty disciplined when it comes to keep myself from doing the compulsions...
I get this because even my friends without ocd get stir crazy if they just sit there. Everyone I know does things to fill their day bc being idol makes them anxious. So are we not allowed to distract ourselves too? I am going through the same exact thing!
Yes, sounds a bit like we're being punished right?
I want to get this off my chest... I'm not sure which OCD type I have. It started with fears of being gay but now I don't have as much gay thoughts (but still enormous amounts of anxiety, and no feelings for girls) but I'm doubting about recovery. I have been in treatment for two years but every time I fully decide to accept the OCD, then OCD finds a new way to doubt about this recovery tip. After OCD has latched a doubting thought about the recovery tip, it doesn't work any more and the more I try to use the tool (e.g. Notice the thoughts and return to present moment, meditation, mindfulness) the stronger the OCD gets. I try to remain positive but OCD pulls me into negativity. I feel like every thought I have is illogical and even the sentences I wrote here in the post feel like not real. I get so many questions in my head (that I know are OCD questions) but the more I try to resist answering them, the stronger they get. Basically like I want to recover but the more I want to come out of OCD the stronger it gets. I'm so confused and don't know what to do... I tried to confront the anxiety and I started liking the feeling but then OCD told me you hate the anxiety and it overtook me .. so so illogical and I'm really sick of it. 6 months of this back and forth between OCD and recovery and it's tiring me... Being so inadequate all the time and exhausted.. it seems like it's impossible to overcome the OCD when you just have no energy and you have the feeling as if you can't distinguish yourself from the thoughts. What to do when you are so overtaken by OCD and every decision you make, is actually OCD telling things in my head? Like my deciding part of my brain would be broken...
I'm looking for any thoughts on a list of recommendations published by the IOCDF. It seems to me this is an otherwise reputable organization. I've highlighted with asterisks the pieces of advice which seem extreme, incorrect, or counterproductive. Quote 1: **Always try hard to agree with all obsessive thoughts** — never analyze, question, or argue with them. The questions they raise are not real questions, and there are no real answers to them. **Try not to get too detailed when agreeing — simply say the thoughts are true and real.** Quote 2: Never seek reassurance from yourself or others. **Instead, tell yourself the worst will happen, is happening, or has already happened.** Reassurance will cancel out the effects of any therapy homework you use it on and prevent you from improving. Reassurance-seeking is a compulsion, no matter how you may try to justify it.
I’m trying to get past the thought in my head that “this is not ocd”. Mainly because I’m not doing compulsions that much anymore it’s just the constant thoughts and still some anxiety from them. The idea that I haven’t figured this out puts a pit in my stomach and brings me to tears. I just know if I do compulsions it’ll feel like the cycle will never stop and it’s exhausting. I already think about this every second of the day and I feel like I can’t enjoy anything so my mind says “well you’re not doing compulsions you’re just anxious about the fact that your life is gonna change and you don’t want it to”. This is so hard I don’t know what to do
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