- Username
- Heello
- Date posted
- 4y ago
Sadly, when we masterbate we sre always going to get what ifs or intrusives always with and they are always disturbing. You just gotta learn to ignore them
I was just going to ask a what if, like what if its sin and God punishes me? :(
@Hoping for the best I’m not going to give you reassurance because I can’t but think of what I am going to tell you God loves all his children he died for our sins so that we’d be free of sin on top of that God isn’t spiteful nor judgemental the only reason we think he is is because of the construct our parents put into our minds to scare us. In reality God is awesome and forgiving! So think about that! Your what if is part of religious ocd on top of that whenever we have what ifs our what ifs are never real
@Ella___ Thanks Ella, ive struggled with this for a long time, always thinking bad of myself and thinking God will punish me ot go to hell. This is horrible, but I hope I get better.
@Hoping for the best You will trust me I recovered from religious ocd a long time ago God is loving and kind and forgiving. He won’t hate you for masterbating that’s just what humans do its in our nature, try not to give into what your ocd is putting into your head.
Not sure it will help and am trying to not give reassurance but we are all sinners. God died for our sins and God forgives (not that pornography or masterbation are even sinful, I don’t think they are.) But if you feel you are addicted, cut back and ask for God’s help in cutting back. Only you know if it’s too much
https://youtu.be/W8zW1DD-YS0 Contrary to these lukewarm responses, appeasing as it to our feelings, it is a sin. And God is really clear about pornography, lust and masturbation: its not His will for us, because He cares about our mind and bodies, more than we do! God will help you turn from it and your mind and heart will greatly benefit from it. I'm not here to point a finger at you, I'm here to point to the One who can help you understand your questions.
ButterflyStar, these are not lukewarm responses. But yours is condescending and misses the mark. The point of this app is to not reassure OCD sufferers because seeking someone to give them answers is buying into their OCD. The point is to sit with the discomfort of uncertainty. Through that they can begin to chip away at other habits as they get a handle on that uncertainty. If masturbation/porn are a side effect of coping with OCD or other life issues, then they ought to be dealt with as symptoms of such and not accusing people of sinning. Even if you really do believe it's a sin, saying that to others on this app is completely foolish and unhelpful. You can sow a lot of doubt in someone's mind that way. Definitely not what God is seeking us to do. This isn't a pulpit.
@Ray I agree Ray. It comes from a place of subjectiveness. Rather than being objective. The word “sin” means a million different things and no one person will probably view it the same....
@Ray Hi Ray and Electrolove, I'm answering from a perspective to someone who is asking a question about God and God's will. Electrolove I'm not sure if you're a Christian who has given your life to Christ? I, me a young person sitting in my home right now living my life, doesn't make the rules what sin is, God does. I always encourage people to get help for their OCD as it is a disorder. If you are a Christian Electrolove the best approach for OCD is to sit under a two umbrella approach - one from a therapist and also Christian advisor. Because the disorder needs treated but we also don't need to sin to get over OCD. The aim as a Christian isn't to sin more and be okay with it, it's to get treatment for OCD and being able to see God's will through clearer lenses, not the lenses of OCD. Deepening in your relationship with Christ. I might have assumed you're a Christian? And if I had, my bad! But my answer still applies to someone genuinely seeking the will of God. It's not popular and following Jesus never has been popular 😅.
How can I not fall in sin? Sometimes I wish I didnt have sexual desires :(
@Hoping for the best If you want a Christian based perspective on cutting back on porn there's a neat site called Covenant Eyes. I've never signed up for the accountability program but they have a wonderful blog and literature
All of you are feeding into his religious ocd! In fact you’re not helping him one bit by feeding him forums and stating things from the bible. The bible has been rewritten multiple times on end by different men and their opinions. In other words, what I am trying to say is masterbating is not a sin however, it is unhealthy. However, scientifically proven men need to masterbate at least a few times a month to keep them from getting prostate cancer. Now before your ocd jumps into conclusions like “oh maybe I should masterbate multiple times because “what if” I get prostate cancer” no no no that’s not what I’m implying. What I am stating is there is a difference between unhealthy masterbation and healthy masterbation. If masterbation was a sin then why do men need to masterbate a few times a month to keep the percentage of getting prostate cancer very low.
Thanks Ella, again for replying. I think the main problem I face regarding this is a huge sexual tension and that sometimes I only get excited with porn. I still dont know what to do, but I am feeling very less anxious right now.
It is actially bad for your mental health. So stay away from it, I know it can be hard, but on the long run it is gonna benefit you. #nofap
Anyone who suffers from intrusive sex thoughts available to talk? I was getting better, but I’m really struggling right now. :(
Anyone with religious/faith doubt/spirituality OCD available/want to talk? Struggling with this right now :(
18+ only Aside from anxiety and intrusive thoughts, which to be honest I'm not as bothered by them like I used to be, there's something else that bothers me just as much, if not more than those things combined. That bothersome thing is pornography. It's been a bother in my life ever since I first discovered it when I was very young. It's always been messing with me. It's like this dirty secret that I engage with and I honestly don't know why I still do to this day. It doesn't help me. I feel bad about it every single time. It amplifies my anxiety and the other day it hurt a friend I deeply care about. The thing is, I've talked about this previously on here, so I just appear like a broken record. At this point, I'm addicted to it I don't want to be, but I am. This is something that takes advantage of your mind. Even if you say no, your mind won't. Worst yet, it appears everywhere in many forms. I feel so dirty. Everytime I end up relapsing I just feel horrible. Horrible due to the fact that this is associating with who I am, even though I don't think it aligns with my morals nor my goals. Not even close. I also feel like this stumped my social development in my adolescence. I understand that teenagers get all wonky with hormones and it isn't like I had a roadmap with going through high school, but pornography definitely made things more difficult. A lot of risky actions were made, bad decisions, and regretful imagery that to this day still messes with me from time to time. I thank God for the days I'm not being distracted and disturbed by those kind of thoughts 24/7. Today, I still think that's bothering me. Another thing that makes me sick is how easily extreme and zany videos can be even when you're not looking for those kind of things. I can Google one thing and it will either give me the opposite or something completely different. Unfortunately, this can include very disturbing things that I wish I wouldn't have seen. This is the only thing I feel so much shame for and I just want it to die. I don't want to deal with it anymore. Yesterday's relapse was one of the worst ones in a long time. I just don't want to keep dealing with this stuff anymore. I wish it were as easy as picking it up, and throwing it out, but the urges and the thoughts and the visualizations come back.
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