- Username
- Faye June
- Date posted
- 3y ago
This is insane. I literally just developed this theme. Yesterday I took an autism test and the results indicated that i was “mildly autistic” and that sent me SPIRALING. But this idea was actually to intense for my anxiety since i’m also struggling with the theme that I don’t even have OCD, which is so painfully complex because OCD and autism have such strong relations that i don’t know how to make sense of it. And then the topic of nuerodivergence popped into my head which was a whole nother beast on its own. I also suspect I have ADHD/Dyslexia which irrationally unsettles me not knowing. and ugh. so much rumination lmao. Sadly i can’t offer you solace as i’ve been googling my symptoms every hour of everyday for the past 3 days and just *not* coping healthily BUT i can offer you sympathy :)
Thank you so much! when I saw that I had a notification, my heart literally jumped out of my chest because I was praying that someone would see this and I was hoping someone could relate. And OMG... I was NOT expecting anyone else to have the same experience as me!!! Omg? But yeah, I know EXACTLY how you feel. It’s not fun. I have a history of severe health anxiety, and I think a lot of it relates to that, because I read something and I’m like, well what if... which I’m sure you can understand. Literally everyone with OCD has the theme of, “well what if it’s not OCD and these obsessions are real”, but that’s just another trope of the condition! And no worries at all, I am just settled by the fact that I’m not alone with this and that I’m not a freak. I don’t know your specific situation, but it’s important to note that social phobias and introversion are like the crutch of all those online tests, so if you have either of those, that IS NOT to say you have autism, but the tests tend to qualify those as traits. I’m personally fairly extraverted, so I’m usually weeded out of those. Although, of course, my OCD says “well what if you’re not extraverted” which is another ‘ugh’ moment. And there is a big relationship between OCD and autism, but that doesn’t mean that to have OCD you must have autism. I have a few friends with OCD who are by no means autistic. But, I’m not aware of your specific situation so I don’t wanna be making points on behalf of you, lol. But, we can chat about this if you like!
This is so incredibly reassuring. It makes so much sense that those tests prey on introversion. I am v introverted but not because social situations are perplexing to me, it’s just because i’m introverted lol. Thank you for helping me to realize that and gain some clarity omg. And i’d love to discuss this more with you! <:
Yeah, I’d be lying if I was to say “introversion isn’t a quality of autism”, because it is, but correlation isn’t always causation and should never be treat as that without more evidence! And yeah, you can add my insta if you’d like! I’d like to get to know more people who have OCD!! Fine if you’re not comfortable with that :-)))
ohh so relatable I often catch myself with intrusive thoughts of autism cause I feel like I've always been... another? not like everyone around me, i guess I always had troubles with getting with people , I was bullied and abused with people of every society/company i was in. i've always been anxious and dubious, a lot of people can confirm it. i know that my fears of having autism are just obsessions, but knowing it doesn't make me feel more confident of my "normality", it just make me feel ashamed of my thoughts. my fears are killing me, i don't know how to resist it
i totally relate with feeling like “another”!! And I’ve had very similar situations like yours with bullying/abuse. I personally wrote it off as me just being a little “off beat” just because that’s who i am. but i can’t help but wonder if this could be accredited to some sort of mental ailment. i’ve always been referred to as “quirky” which irks me a little because sometimes it seems so alienating to be referred to as such. as if people were kind of mocking me or something?? i don’t know, it’s hard to figure out. what usually helps me cope is realizing that i’m actually comfortable with who i am and all of the little knickknacks that make me, me. even if being “another” makes me feel rather insecure sometimes, i find that its my identity none the less. i don’t know if that was too wordy lol, all this to say that i relate!!
Yeah, I had a friend who was particularly introverted, and I think being ‘quiet’ & ‘shy’ can cause you to appear vulnerable, and when someone seems vulnerable, it becomes easy for people to prey on them for their own entertainment, etc. For example, I’m 16 (17 in july) and I was close friends with a girl who I sat next to in maths. We got along really well, despite being fairly different people on the outside. She always had a very small group of friends, who l could never really jive with. A girl who I had been friends with in the past, who had a tendency to bully people found my friend, Holly and took advantage of her vulnerability. Holly is not autistic, at least I highly doubt she is, but on the surface, given what we ‘know’, she’d probably qualify to some degree as being autistic, given the parameters of the online tests. Not every single person who was bullied or felt ‘different’ is autistic. There’s a correlation, but correlation isn’t always causation! Hopefully that puts things into a bit more perspective if things are becoming blurred.
@rvpink And for the record, I approached the girl who was taking advantage of my friend Holly with my other friends, and she was SO awkward. Lmao. It’s all fun and games until people get brought up on their bullshit. So yeah, that’s my story.
@Itsgonnabeok Yes!! this does add a lot of perspective!!btw, people stink i’m sorry that happened to your friend :/ but i relate a lot with this situation. it seems like i attract people who have more overbearing, or at least in relativity to me, personalities. i’ve always described my personality as majority passive so it’s perplexing that i keep attracting fiery individuals. that’s probably why i feel so out of place socially. i’ve always thought that despite my introversion , i was especially in tune with people’s emotions and social cues and that i, myself, was a decent conversationalist . which conflicts a lot with the rather juvenile ideation i have of autism ( i.e social ineptness). i know you’ve mentioned this breifly but does this theme conflict heavily with your identity too?
@rvpink Yeah, they do, lol. Fun fact, the girl we’re talking about (her names Lucy) had come up to me a few months later at a big party. She was a little drunk so she was apologising incessantly for how she had treat Holly, and I just accepted her apology on behalf of Holly. I guess most people are redeemable, maybe, lol. But, to answer your question, autism does not correlate with how I perceive myself whatsoever, but, like most themes, that doesn’t kill off the obsession. And yeah, I’ve always gotten a long with people who aren’t like me. I seem to be drawn to quiet people, I always have. Although, I was best friends with a girl who is even more ‘fiery’ than myself for many years, and as we’ve grown we’ve drifted but I still consider her a dear friend. But by in large, I am definitely drawn to the quiet introverted types I guess. And yeah, I enjoy people a lot, and when I find someone I like it’s just the best.
@Itsgonnabeok oh lol i guess opposites really do attract. i wouldn’t go as far as to say i enjoy people but i do appreciate them a lot. but i admittedly love the feeling of “clicking” with new people as well! :,) also in having this conversation i’ve realized a lot about myself and definitely really deconstructed this obsession ( at least for the time being). the thought process that led me to believe i was on the spectrum seems a little neurotic to me now :p so i’m very thankful for this convo!! also you are so well articulated especially for your age (not that i’m much older lol, 19). it’s so refreshing to have spoken to someone like you :)
@rvpink Aw thank you so much! It’s been super rewarding to finally hear from someone who has had this theme because I was SO isolated with it. And yeah, I guess ‘enjoying’ people is a pretty extraverted thing, haha. I think a lot of these obsessions are perpetuated by the internet trivialising things that aren’t trivial and blurring the lines between mental conditions and normal human behaviour. My mum had said something when I was telling her about my obsession. Her therapist many years ago (when she was suffering with post natal depresssion) had said something very relevant to us. She said that if you were to read the DSM back to front, you’d come out with a handful of different mental illnesses, most of which you would not have. You have to be qualified to interpret the literature, and I think a lot of the time we forget this and go down rabbit holes! At least I do. Come back to this thread whenever you need to talk something out, I’m always here!!
@Itsgonnabeok you’ve enlightened me so much! especially appreciative of the dsm bit, that’s such important information to know :,) and i just saw your insta message!! my handle is @parfwana
@rvpink Yep!!! And yeah, just requested you :)
I know I'm super late to this thread, but thank god its here! After an offhand comment from someone last week, I have been obsessing about whether or not I might have autism, and being totally stuck in a hole. Googling has been non stop for me, and taking lots of tests! Absolutely petrified that I've had it forever and never realised, so been replaying loads of old events in my head to see if I felt different then or if the signs were there. I thought I was the only one trapped by this!
People with autism can blend in with the crowd too
How am I supposed to live my life as a straight woman when I have all these memories of things I’ve done and evidence that proves I’m gay? I don’t understand how that’s responsible. This is my only theme, and I’ve had it on and off since I was 12. It’s been pretty “on” for the last 3 years, and I just don’t see how this is OCD. Why does this have to be my theme? Why couldn’t I get something less realistic or possible to happen? I worry that I will never be free of this, that I’ll never be able to have a relationship. I’m 20 years old and I’ve been scared of being a lesbian since I was 12. This cannot be OCD, it just cant. I simply don’t understand. I am turned on by lesbian porn, for Christ sake! Even when I’m not actively doing compulsions, the thoughts are still there, but I have no anxiety. They’re just there. I don’t understand how this can be OCD. I’ve been diagnosed several times by several different doctors, but it feels like I know I’ve been lying to them. Whenever I hear about people with REAL OCD, I get a pit in my stomach because I know I don’t have it and I’m a liar and a fraud. Also, does anyone else question the nature of this obsession? Like I feel like this is such an obscure mental illness, not to mention an obscure obsession within that mental illness. It just feels like this big elaborate story that is true for some people, but false for most (particularly me). Like, what the hell are the chances that a regular, normal girl from California has a crippling fear of being a lesbian for almost half of her life, but isn’t actually a lesbian and instead has OCD? That just seems like bullshit. It seems like a cop out. I’m saying this regarding me, not anyone else. I’d really like to talk to someone. I’m having a really hard day.
every so often i wonder if i should pursue looking into an autism diagnosis until i manage to convince myself out of it but here i am wondering again (not in the frantic ocd spiral way, but in the “it would really make sense” way). now the points against it are that no one in my family really wants to admit that i can have it because i’m pretty high-functioning and adept at navigating most social situations, but i think that’s because of their biases or misconceptions about autism. my sister is the only one who thinks i have it and she’s the one who got me seriously considering it. however, if i did have it, i think it would be pretty mild, even if it would explain a lot. if anyone reading this has autism, please let me know what you think i should do or if it’s something worth pursuing: reasons i think i have it: 1. i was extremely hyper-sensitive and overstimulated as a child. my mom says that i constantly cried myself hoarse as a baby, despite her not understanding why. 2. i walked on my tiptoes until i was 6 years old. i don’t know why but i had to train myself out of it. my mom actually got me tested for autism because of this but the doctor said that because i was meeting my milestones there was no way i could be. 3. to this day, i have a hard time maintaining eye contact. my natural instinct is to look away when speaking to people, but i know it’s rude so i force myself to look into their eyes. my hyper-awareness of this can get pretty exhausting so i hate it. making eye contact is never natural for me though. i have to actively do it but i slip a lot. 4. i prefer being alone. i have friends but i can go days or even a week without speaking to anyone. my favorite person to be with is myself, which everyone thinks is very weird. i wouldn’t call myself a recluse, but other people would. my family hates it and calls it unhealthy even though i feel fine. 5. i can navigate social situations but it’s exhausting for me. i constantly have to think of things to add to the conversation to sound “natural” and if i can’t think of anything, i stay silent, which i know is uncomfortable but i don’t know what else to do in the moment. my social battery also runs out quickly and i can be mute for the rest of the day if i get tired enough. my family also hates this because it’s rude. 6. i’m called rude a lot even though i don’t know why. i try to be very polite and most of the time i’m successful, but sometimes i say things in a conversation that makes my family lecture me after. it’s very draining and it makes me not want to speak. i usually cry after these moments because i don’t know what i’m doing wrong or how to avoid it. keep in mind, i never insult people, i never name-call or point out any flaws in what someone is saying or how they look. it’s just things i say that are considered “weird” or rough which are then interpreted as rude. 7. i hyperfixate. i don’t know if it’s the ocd brain or the possible autism but i’m typically very bored if i’m not hyperfixated on anything. i remember learning to tone this down when i got obsessed with star wars and constantly talked about it to my dad which caused him to say “you know we can talk about other things right?” i never talked to him about star wars again. 8. i’m very very routine oriented. i eat the same breakfast everyday, which can go on for years until i get tired of it and choose something else. it’s a running joke in my family. 9. if my routine is disrupted, i don’t get emotionally upset, but i’ll avoid doing whatever i should do because i don’t have what i normally want. in the breakfast case, if i don’t have the usual butter to cook with my eggs, i won’t eat because it doesn’t taste the same. i don’t do it to be stubborn. i just can’t find it in myself to eat. i think that’s everything! sorry for the long post i’m just very curious and this has been weighing on my mind. lmk what you guys think! also i want to be clear that i’m NOT self-diagnosing just as i didn’t self-diagnose when i thought i could have ocd (which i did), i just wanted to gather these facts to gain possible insight if it could be true so i could be diagnosed. thanks!
What makes me feel the craziest, is that I feel like I know enough thanks to my having to research and Google everything..... like, I'm a sophomore in college... I am majoring in Psychology. Because the human mind (like mine) is so interesting. So like, I will talk to myself. Quietly with my thoughts AND even out loud. What trips me out is that I Swear that I have full therapy sessions with myself. I know my OCD is the cause of me having to keep questioning myself and trying to figure out why I'm this way and how to get better and what can I do to end this hell I live in inside my mind. I have made note of being able to provide myself with suggestions and advice and info on things to do that can help counter and deal with my OCD to where i can be more functional. It really pulls me into an intense standstill Because it's like I know the answer and I know what I need to do... but I have to always end it with how i must not care how insane and crazy I am because if I know what I can do to help manage and keep my OCD at ease, then why can't I? It pulls me into this spiral where I then question what I know. Or if I have some sort of split personality. I'm always checking and researching things that I already know, just so I can find reassurance. I will ask Alexa stupid questions I know the answer to, like "whats the definition of _____" when I know what the meaning is, but I want to make sure. I'm always feeling as if I could be wrong in everything I think I know.... I get stuck for hours replaying events and situations or something said or done and try to think of every possible reason why, or possible outcomes. I can not communicate effectively because I sound crazy to myself, how is the other person thinking I'm normal? I get lost and stuck for hours in my own head... "circling" as i call it, or what I recently read as a ping pong game. My best friend committed suicide in 2019, by "hanging" to where I became obsessed with suicide, learning all about hanging to where I know things like short-drop and either you suffer or just pass out. Not just that but then I want to know how she was in her last moments. (I would hope she just passed out... I hate knowing she was in any pain). This lead me to become obsessed with the spirit world and started doing spirit box sessions again because I want to talk to her. (Which has me confused between I know I might hear some things because I want to... but also feel that because of that, I need clear responses). I am just in constant battle with my own self. I'm always fighting my own self. I'm my own worst enemy... but my own friend and therapist and teacher and etc. This is really really difficult. And I hope I am not alone in this. I don't even know exactly what subtypes and themes i deal with because there's many, and because everything has to be exactly what it's supposed to be, that if one "trait" doesn't fall under that category, that there must be something I am missing. This is exhausting 😞
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