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How can I tell the difference between suicidal ocd and suicidal thoughts?

i had intrusive thoughts about suicide and wonder why i am like this when i truly dont want it i have fear of death etc suicide health anything i see about suicide or someone harming themselves. it triggers and i reflect it on my self at first it was images and urges now it commands and now it making me second guess if its really ocd i did recently get diagnosed with ocd and im in the process of starting CBT ERP and im scared that its gunna make it worse and i see my ocd it’s affecting my rlsp with my partner i took a break from work i dont go outside much now or do the things i enjoy bc im scared of having a panic attack and i look at everyone enjoying life and laughing and im stuck in my head about things i dont wanna think about ive been on this app for a while and it does help but i find myself excessively looking at people stories and comparing if its what im going through i would spend hours an hours on google comparing suicidal ideation and ocd and if i read something my mind starts getting stuck on that making me feel like thats what i have several times i felt i needed to go to hospital but ik im not suicidal and i dont want them to treat me crazy and now it sounds like i want reassurance lol but i guess i want some advice to get myself out of the thought loop so ican be more present ive tried meditation ive tried grounding techniques maybe im not being paitent with myself i have had obessions in the past and i was good for about 10 yrs and noticed these thoughts back in 2022 but was able to brush em off and at the time i was stressed about looking for a job then my dad passed away in nov andi got real bad urges especially if i had dreams about him but inwoukd be about to get myself together an was confused on what this was and then i watched a tv show and someone hurt them selves and i opened up to my partner about what ive been feeling and then i saw someone brother on facebook commit suicide and its been a crazy spiral from there. i guess my episodes have always been something about ive seen or heard or fears.

So yesterday at night I was okay I just had a mini headache and I was stressing all morning and worrying due to other reasons plus I’m on my menstrual cycle I don’t know if that helps any better. I was watching some videos and I started thinking about what’s my purpose here in life like why do we live if we are gonna die and what is my purpose and I don’t wanna die so I turned around to my safe space my husband he was sleeping already and I hugged him to feel better and all of the sudden it felt like I provoked it or like I made myself think it to harm him and I started freaking out because I was like what no I don’t wanna do that do I actually that’s the love of my life he’s my safe space I love him what would be my life without him and I started getting really bad BUT BAD urges to do it and like my mind was running like to 1,000x I started crying I was having a mini silent panic attack I wanted to stand up and run or do something to get out of my head I wanted to wake him up to reassure me I just felt like I was really gonna snap and like I was gonna stand up and do something like I felt it in my heart and I pressed the SOS button and after I was still kind of freaking because I was like well if I do it everyone is gonna hate me im gonna go to jail and I started freaking out because I felt like I couldn’t control myself cause the urges felt so real and writing it right now I feel it again and I’m really scared I go to a physc because I can’t control myself which yesterday I managed to do on my own but I feels so horrible to think that and I feel like a truly horrible person because they’re thoughts but the actions could be so real and I can’t I was doing a lot better :( I really was I don’t know what happened I want this all to go away and like I try to tell myself it isn’t real why would I act on them and I don’t know if my ocd gets mad and like tries to tell me they are and that I could do them and I really don’t want to I don’t want to do them that’s the truth.

Recently I’ve been having scary intrusive thoughts about hurting myself or others. I’m so scared, what do I do?? I wouldn’t hurt a fly.

+18 TRIGGER WARNING I’ve been trying not to post as much on here, but it’s been a rough time facing these thoughts on my own. I’ve been trying to force myself to move on and not take my thoughts so seriously but it’s hard not to sit with them. Basically, to try to cope, I’ve been watching expose videos on internet drama and those who have been “cancelled”. Sometimes, though, it can just get to be too overwhelming as I start comparing myself with the people in these videos and I just want to cry because I’m just so disgusted with myself. I’m starting to question what’s real or not, if I’ve hurt people in the past or not, and separating my thoughts from my actions. I don’t trust myself anymore. I can’t find happiness in anything. I just keep pushing my friends and family away because every little thing triggers me. Sleep is the only time that I can find peace. Because then, I know that I’m not hurting anyone—including myself.

Struggling today with my thoughts and maybe some dissociation. I can’t get any clear thoughts. I felt like lately I’ve started to recover and then the past few days have felt so hard. I feel scared for the future. I am scared I don’t have enough hope for living with ocd. I am scared that I’m not gonna be happy. I’m scared I’ll chose to end my life over this. I’m scared I’ll want to end my life. I feel weird. My thoughts are jumbled today. Something feels like it’s going to happen and that’s what is giving me anxiety.

This theme always hits me the worst. It causes the most anxiety and panic. And when i’m finally doing good again it all spirals back. my panic attacks are unreal again. sometimes i get so bad my Xanax won’t even stop the anxiety. These thoughts scare the living shit out of me and cause me to have terrible depression. Recently they have been back. What if this what if that, and sometimes they aren’t even what ifs, it’s more like a demand and they terrifies me. I’ve once again gave into my compulsions and put anything and everything that cause me anxiety into my kitchen so i can feel safe. This theme scares me because it makes me feel like i want to do it or i am going to do it when i don’t. These thoughts consume me. They even say “well do you wanna live like this what if it is the easier way out”. I don’t want to hurt myself and i’m truly a happy person i’m just not understanding these thoughts and why they cause me this much pain. I’m tired if the constant panic attacks and freaking out because of it. My mind goes “what if you have ideation and not OCD”when i clearly have been diagnosed with it. I just need tips and advice i don’t want to live like this forever i’m only 17.

I honestly don't know how to fix myself. All these terrible feelings and overwhelming thoughts constant is exhausting im so tired of it all I really just want it all to end any means nessecary. And yesterday I actually made that decision and then I overthinked it, not to not do it. But what I wanted people to know or feel. And I had to tell them before I go. So I tired with my girlfriend, I guess I was not subtle at all probably because I was honestly at the really emotional stage of my brain cycle at that point and so we both were breaking down and she was panicking and I felt bad I was doing that to her but I didn't wanna lie and reassure her but she wouldn't calm down and kept saying how much it'd hurt her and that she'd do it to. Eventually I realized I have to stay alive for her for now at least (till she dumps me) but deciding that doesn't make the thought stop. So if anyone knows how to do that I'd appreciate it. I can't keep dealing with this cycle of feelings of numbness then overwhelming emotions and derelization, and depersonalization, the thought of how I really want it all to end, is there constantly. But I made a promise and I'm trying to keep it.

Hi All! I was stuck in an OCD loop for a while surrounding real events around children. I also struggle with incest OCD and my biggest trigger is my brother. I love him dearly but he is a big trigger bc he has always been a lot younger than me, he is 17 right now. The other night he wanted me to toss the remote to him and had his hands up in front of his face. Instead I tossed it in his lap. My intrusive thoughts and fears are telling me that I did this purposely so I could hit his crotch. Now I am worried I hurt him and he would be better off / not as traumatized if I was dead. I know this is extreme but the guilt truly gets to me. How do you all cope with uncertainty? Do I talk to him about it and ask if I hurt him or will it just make him feel more weird? What if I did do it to gain pleasure from it - how do I cope and move on from this?

I genuinely feel like this is the worst my ocd has ever been. I logically have no reason I’d want to harm myself. Great family, friends, job, low expenses at the moment. Not going through a loss. Feels like all day my brain is kicking the shit out of me telling me I need to kill myself or I should. Intrusive feelings and urges galore. Also so wrapped up in it that I’m unsure if it’s ocd or my own thoughts / I want them or not. Normally I’m the guy terrified to get on a plane because I’m afraid of death so this simultaneously makes no sense but also feels so real?? It feels like this is my fate now or something Any insight welcome

I experience suicidal and existential ocd, and I KNOW that one day, those intrusive thoughts will not pop up that much. (These are the thoughts that cause me a bad feeling, and then my ocd tells me I cant handle this feeling and I will end my life) (so, its a constant loop) But then, even if I think of life without those intrusive thoughts/feelings (for example, my future self, free from OCD), I get thoughts saying that life is scary or not a safe place, and that I will of course end up by comitting suicide… Like I cant handle life, even if everything is good in my life. (Example: I imagine myself very happy in the future, but still, life would be too much and I would have to end it). Does it make sense? Im so scared of those thoughts and feelings 😢It makes no sense at all!

I (15m)am a monster. I have done horrible things mistakes or not I don’t think people would ever forgive me. When I got into highschool when I was 14 I had a messed up mindset that being sexual was the way to go with everything and I was way to open to people who I just met. This led to me revealing personal things about myself that made others uncomfy and flirting with my friends all the time and making sexual jokes comments and just sexual flirting even when they said no (this was over text) Me thinking back on this makes me realize how uncomfy I made these people it’s sick I considered them my friends and ended up traumtizing them. One of them stopped talking to me because of my behavior they were scarred and they can’t even bring themselves to look at me and don’t even want me saying their name. Then there were these 2 guys who were older than me one was 16 one was 17. The 16 yr old was introduced to me by my online friend who is my best friend and I begged the 16 yr old for pics (idk how it started but after my friends ex randomly messaged me and sent me pictures and then blocked me right after I think I became addicted to chasing that high) the 16 yr old eventually sent me a pic but it was real and I stopped bugging him on it after that but i feel so bad I did that but my friend tells me not to feel bad cause the guy was weird but I still feel bad. Then the 17 yr old I did the same thing with him but went too far when I tried getting pics from him by using my best friends ass pics she sent me (she was 15) I don’t think I grasped how wrong this was but that’s not an excuse she eventually found it when I told her after she tried getting pics from the guy herself to try and help me and the guy got mad when she stopped talking to him cause we found it weird talking to him. I told her about how I sent the pics she said she felt sick but forgave me cause she thought I was gonna harm myself. Fast forward the guy told me after I had still been flirting with him that I s@d him (we never met in person ever) and I felt so guilty and apologized a lot and he got annoyed and told me that he had been kinda manipulative to me and kept me in a loop of mystery and I don’t talk to him anymore. But one of my other friends stopped talking to me after I was being by too emotionally taxing on him because I became very depressed and didn’t wanna life anymore and tried to stop lifing a few times. And now idk if I actually s@d someone if I did that to someone and now I think I’m a pdo and I think I s@d my baby cousins and my little brother and now I’m scared bf I can’t even get help because my parents don’t believe in therapy and even if I wanted to I’m scared because I don’t want to go to jail but I think I deserve it honestly why should a monster like me live

The theme i struggle with most is suicidal OCD. And with September being “national suicide awareness month”, My anxiety is sky high. i’m back in my spiral. I’m back with the panic attacks. My mind keeps comparing itself to all of these people and now i’m convinced i want too or i have these symptoms and im next. i’m freaking myself out and idk what to do. I get scared i have suicidal ideation when i know i don’t because i would never ever actually kms nor hurt myself in anyway. Does anyone know how to comercome this??? I just got out of my spiral not even 1 months ago and im scared im going deeper this time. My mind is all over the place scared im actually going to do it when i know im not and i feel like i have to go to the hospital or something idk what to do.

this is an event that im not at all clear on, it took place 7 years ago when i was 12 (i am now 18). i was holding my baby cousin on the couch and using snapchat filters to entertain them per the usual. i used to love doing that, i was always the baby in the family so i was excited to have a baby cousin of my own. and then i think i looked down and noticed my hand was over their diaper area and they also had on a diaper & pants ofc), and then i rubbed over the entire front of it (ew)🤢 i think because of the area and curiosity, this is what i've tried to remember. and now my head is saying that i liked it and was turned on idk truly, it happened years ago it's all a blur. i don't know why i would do it. but i know i would never hurt them, i mean i've been obsessed with them since before they were even born! but i don't have any clear memory of what happened, but i do think it was something like that. I think i was too young to think much of it or see the full spectrum of things because they had a diaper on. but i still feel terrible, this is an old obsession because i almost offed myself 2 years ago because of the same dilemma. i broke completely down and was crying so hard i could hardly breathe. she told me to calm down, & that i was probably curious and i was young. but i still feel like i sa'ed them, even though i didn't actually touch their privates and definitely had no intentions of it either. and then someone on her told me if it was sexual intentions then it was sa, but i hardly remember the situation so i don't fully know. i can't live like this.

My problem is wrong coding, and perception. My subconscious mind get into wrong perception. I cannot calm my amygdala. Before this I can easily calm my mind. But I can not do it anymore. I do not know what to do. I am thinking of how to die everyday please help me

Suffering from POCD and it's really making me considering not being here anymore. This isn't who I am and I don't understand why this is happening to me. Can someone give me some advice or support. Thank you...

Haven’t posted in awhile , I was just curious anyone who has gone through the theme suicidal ocd , who here has overcame it ? My mind plays tricks on me and sometimes I feel like throwing in the towel and then that freaks me out . Anyone here have any advice on how to overcome this theme ? I haven’t been diagnosed with OCD but I know I have bad anxiety and am constantly worrying about my health . Prior to this I was freaked out I was gonna die from a heart attack and die in my sleep and then randomly this image popped into my head and then now it’s been stuck on “s” thoughts . I know anxiety can cause intrusive thoughts too . So anyone have any positive feedback would be greatly appreciated to over come this quicker ❤️‍🩹

Why do I keep having these thoughts? And then it’s like if I don’t care about the thought then I must want it to be true. It’s like if I don’t have anxiety over it then I’m like “oh god does that mean that I’m really going to harm myself” this is so debilitating. I just want to stop thinking and go back to how it was before all this started. Prior to the harm ocd thoughts I was terrified of dying. All I can think about now is su*c*dal ocd. It never goes away. I’m sitting on my couch and I just have the most uncomfortable feeling and a million thoughts going through my head. I’ve been dealing with this for 2 months now. Mine is a little different I feel like than the traditional hard ocd bc I’m not scared to be around knives and stuff so that makes me feel like is it actually real ideation since I’m not scared to be around stuff that could harm me?

Or “I don’t want to be here anymore?” Had been struggling w suicidal ocd and now wondering if this is it nothing a bit or if it’s my own thoughts. I guess it’s ocd vibes or I wouldn’t be typing this here that I’m concerned lol. It’s just freaky

I just wanted to post here. I am currently experiencing urges to not hurt myself and my boyfriend is dealing with a family emergency. I don't want to stress him more. The thoughts get to me it had been a year since I masturbated and i broke it last week when somethinghorrible happened and felt horrible i had a really bad addiction at 14 I would do it everyday. I am afraid to tell my partner because he also struggles with lust and i used to hurt myself i started at age 12 with anything sharp. I would even shave things. When i felt numb i would do it anywhere mostly school and home. Last time i did it i was 15 and my boyfriend took me in a date I wore shorts and it rode up my thigh then he saw the marks. He was disappointed in me and I get sad when he's upset at me because I try my best to be positive for him. Any advice? I'm just trying my best to fight the urges I've had them for 4 days straight and I threw away anything sharp piece of metal and i locked the razors away. I also locked the lighters away I used to burn.